@Liam
That seems like a slippery slope argument.
SarahJackson said:
@Liam
That seems like a slippery slope argument.
Is it really a fallacy if history shows a pattern of this behavior? It’s more of a strategy than a fallacy in this context.
@Liam
Maybe, but that’s why we should be precise in our language and say ‘restricted’ instead of ‘banned’ to describe these situations.
Tracy said:
@Liam
Maybe, but that’s why we should be precise in our language and say ‘restricted’ instead of ‘banned’ to describe these situations.
The term ‘banned’ accurately describes the situation as these books are being removed from schools, which restricts access for the students of those institutions.
Tracy said:
@Liam
Maybe, but that’s why we should be precise in our language and say ‘restricted’ instead of ‘banned’ to describe these situations.
Books are effectively banned from public school libraries under these policies.
Tracy said:
@Liam
Maybe, but that’s why we should be precise in our language and say ‘restricted’ instead of ‘banned’ to describe these situations.
They’re banned within the school system, which for many students means they’re inaccessible.
Tracy said:
@Liam
Maybe, but that’s why we should be precise in our language and say ‘restricted’ instead of ‘banned’ to describe these situations.
For many students, these books are out of reach, which is a form of banning.
Tracy said:
@Liam
The current bans don’t affect public libraries, just schools.
Here’s a link to more information on states that have implemented extensive book bans: Which U.S. States Ban the Most Books? - Safe Commercial Playground Equipment for Schools | AAA State of Play
Tracy said:
@Liam
The current bans don’t affect public libraries, just schools.
Some libraries are now being instructed to place these books outside general circulation.
Tracy said:
@Liam
The current bans don’t affect public libraries, just schools.
We’ll see how it develops.
Liam said:
Historically, supporting book bans has rarely been seen as a positive stance.
If you can order these books online, are they really banned?
It’s about how ‘banning’ is defined. While the government isn’t criminally penalizing the possession of these books, their removal from schools represents a form of censorship.
Liam said:
Historically, supporting book bans has rarely been seen as a positive stance.
If you can order these books online, are they really banned?
Banning can occur in specific contexts. It doesn’t have to be all-encompassing to be considered a ban.
@vinincent
Just like guns are banned in schools but not everywhere, it’s misleading to claim a general ban without specifying the context.
CathyGenesis said:
@vinincent
Just like guns are banned in schools but not everywhere, it’s misleading to claim a general ban without specifying the context.
Exactly, there’s a distinction to be made, but that doesn’t negate the fact that a ban is in place in certain contexts.
@vinincent
The rhetoric used often lacks the necessary context, leading to sensationalist comparisons that don’t hold up without specific details.
CathyGenesis said:
@vinincent
The rhetoric used often lacks the necessary context, leading to sensationalist comparisons that don’t hold up without specific details.
The comparisons to historical figures and tactics are concerning, especially as they relate to current political strategies.
@vinincent
Are we talking about outright prohibitions or just guidelines? The distinction matters in these discussions.
Liam said:
Historically, supporting book bans has rarely been seen as a positive stance.
If you can order these books online, are they really banned?
In my experience as a teacher, the removal of books that engage students, replacing them with less engaging materials, feels like a ban within my educational environment.
Liam said:
Historically, supporting book bans has rarely been seen as a positive stance.
While I support free speech, I believe there should be limits on what children are exposed to in educational settings.